Havana? Mini Satin? The two Reserve In Show Winners at Cloverdale

This is a "fun" photo.   Uno on the left is the show A BIS judge, awarded the RIS to Griffin's chocolate Havana.   Cathy in the middle is the show B BIS judge, awarded the RIS to Uno's chocolate Mini Satin.  

Mini Satin and Havana are well known for being the look-a-like of each other.  Here are two of these with the same color chocolate.  Uno and Griffin want to put them together to have a comparison. 

 Several years ago in a huge show a "Mini Satin" was awarded Best In Show.   The owner of the rabbit said it was the Havana BOB.  After a lengthy discussion at the table of which none of us could hear what was being said, the Best In Show judge changed his mind and awarded the Best In Show to the original Reserve In Show winner, a Netherland Dwarf.   This is how notorious it has been about the Mini Satin and Havana breeds resembling each other.  

What do you think?  Can you tell them apart?

This post concludes the photos and reports of the Cloverdale double shows.